MK1 vs MK2 radius arm

Technical Help for the A & K Series Metro. Please state what year and model you're referring to for better responses.
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Re: MK1 vs MK2 radius arm

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Sinirrop wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:55 pm
DotMatrix wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:29 pm its pretty hard to tell for sure what this actually fits with virtually no description, no proper part number and only one picture, but it looks like it might be the one. what do you think?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEAR-SIDE-ROV ... 2438782692
I understand that they are for a mk3... Are radius arms so specific for every series?
I think the mark 3 and 4 use the same radius arms.
they dont look like mk3-4 arms to me. they look like they might be mk1.
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Sinirrop wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:48 pm
DotMatrix wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:07 pm
when you say bearing seats and bearing stud is that the stub-axle you talk about?
if so, then yes I see why you need a new radius arm.

I have previously repaired a radius arm which was worn through the bearing and into the cast iron by filling the worn away bit with chemical metal and then filing it to the correct diameter using a tool called a reamer. this holds up just fine. but if your arm is worn to much through I wouldn't have any doubts about making a tight fitting bush and fitting this into the arm for the radius arm bearing to sit in.
Thank you for sharing your experience: it's such a pleasure to talk with someone who knows exactly what we are talking about.
Actually one of my arms has two problems:
1) the needle bearing seats is worn through the cast iron: it is where I tought to install a tight fit bush.
2) the wheel hub bearing axle is bent: here I do not know how to repair it.
The other arm has only problem no.1.
I tought it was easier and safer to find a good pair of arms and have new bearings installed. But They are difficult to find, as I am learning...
no problem. I'm glad if I can help.
ofcourse it would be easier if you could find a set of good arms.

rimmerbros seems to have the axle for the left side in stock (if this is the axle you mention is bent)
http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-RGV10009
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DotMatrix wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:26 pm
rimmerbros seems to have the axle for the left side in stock (if this is the axle you mention is bent)
http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-RGV10009
This one I am sure is for K series, as the most in the rimmerbros catalogue.
Anyway I tried to contact the seller of those remanufactured arms you suggested. Hoping...
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Sinirrop wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:24 am
DotMatrix wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:26 pm
rimmerbros seems to have the axle for the left side in stock (if this is the axle you mention is bent)
http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-RGV10009
This one I am sure is for K series, as the most in the rimmerbros catalogue.
Anyway I tried to contact the seller of those remanufactured arms you suggested. Hoping...
yes the axle is listed as being for a k-series, but the hubs from a-series cars fit k-series cars so would guess the axle was the same
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DotMatrix wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:31 am
yes the axle is listed as being for a k-series, but the hubs from a-series cars fit k-series cars so would guess the axle was the same
I know the axle is not the same. At least the end is different beacause the nut is different. On A series it is a castelleted nut with locking pin, so the axle has a hole. On K series the nut is locked by punching and bending the edge of the nut into a keyway in the axle. So the axle has a keyway and not a hole. Maybe other measures are the same.
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Sinirrop wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:54 am
DotMatrix wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:31 am
yes the axle is listed as being for a k-series, but the hubs from a-series cars fit k-series cars so would guess the axle was the same
I know the axle is not the same. At least the end is different beacause the nut is different. On A series it is a castelleted nut with locking pin, so the axle has a hole. On K series the nut is locked by punching and bending the edge of the nut into a keyway in the axle. So the axle has a keyway and not a hole. Maybe other measures are the same.
yes. but it could still be used. If I needed one I would try buying it and a nut to see if it worked.
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DotMatrix wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:58 am
yes. but it could still be used. If I needed one I would try buying it and a nut to see if it worked.
This can be a way. At the moment I am in contact with the ebay seller you suggested, and there is a possibility they are correct for me. This would be a good new.
If from the picture you can tell they are not Mk2 (I've never seen Mk2 arms...), they would be Mk1.
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they are definately not mk2. this is a picture of a mk2 metro arm:

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At last, I found that the one you suggested is correct for my car and same part number. So I bought it.
The other http://www.ebay.it/itm/OFFSIDE-ROVER-ME ... Sw2xRYWQi5 isn't.
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Sinirrop wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:02 pm At last, I found that the one you suggested is correct for my car and same part number. So I bought it.
The other http://www.ebay.it/itm/OFFSIDE-ROVER-ME ... Sw2xRYWQi5 isn't.
here's an offside one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLASSIC-AUSTI ... SwzaJX64wN
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